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Liem “sock-wearer” Talbott ([personal profile] sterngaze) wrote2022-05-01 04:42 pm
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Liem's mindscape is dark; quiet; contemplative. Any feelings or sensations that Liem doesn't intentionally project himself seem distant, as though echoing from a far-off room. Following any given sense to its source is bafflingly difficult.
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[personal profile] redsoil 2023-12-27 02:23 am (UTC)(link)
[ In as many ways as he feels similar to Liem, he also feels so strongly dissimilar. ]

You did not answer my other question, Liem Talbott.

[ Careful as those words are, Set won't let them stand uncountered and tested. He leans into the other man's space, bowing a little so that he can peer through the curtain of red that was his hair and feel the weight of his mouth as it purses and frowns. As he reaches deeper against Liem's person to hold his waist, and draw him in. Patient, and brutally persistent.

]


Is that treatment you expect from me? To be secondary to a goal, to a greater calling?

[ The answer clearly matters to him, investigatory as it is. He wants to know where their friendship is going, where Liem envisions it stands — if he imagines it changing, or if he is simply clutching at whatever he gets, for better or worse. Set, master of conflict and discord, wishes to push through that barrier on Liem's heart.

( He knows he will choose his son, always. But, Liem doesn't stand against what he wants or will choose. He is with it. )]


Look at me. [ And he thumbs the arch of Liem's cheek, fond and firm with possessiveness. ] — it's not solely about blame, or importance of our work. They are not mutually exclusive from wanting to not be lonely anymore. You could ask me for that. We could make it new and real, together.
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[personal profile] redsoil 2023-12-27 04:22 pm (UTC)(link)
[ Imagine that. One of Set's own deepest, most painful injuries, is the same sort of willful ignorance shown to him by those who should have loved him. Maybe that is why he pursues this so hard with Liem, chasing down the old scars and reopening them bit by bit — to be able to taste them, and know them as intimately as his own. As he dips his head to be able to find Liem's dark eyes and stroke his face — worried in his own way, possessive in others. ]

You can, though. You can ask me.

[ It's not a hard thing to be asked. Hayame yearns to fight alongside Set, and he will one day do that for her. She has more than earned it. Dimitri will know the ugliness of war so that he can find an era of peace. The people of Springstar ( and the few of Highstorm ) who look to him as a real god, a god to pray to, will get what they want as well. The spirit of it, if not the letter. Ruby receives a protector. Liem — Liem, too, can have whatever he asks for. A friend was pressed into his hands, and returned tenfold by his caretaking and shy affections. ]

Did you know that the devotions of others have granted me my divinity again? Not in full, but enough to spend my might where it belongs And it belongs to you, Liem. You are a good friend, one — one I have never deserved to have. You have cared for me —

[ Reaching behind him, he places a hand across that uneasy fist and holds it. Nary an inch of space left between them for it. ]

Let me care for you, too. Because I really, truly want to. Because you deserve to be chosen.
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[personal profile] redsoil 2024-01-07 02:28 am (UTC)(link)
[ Liem's hesitant admission is, to Set, more than he can bear.

It is practical, to offer his blessing as a god to those he prides. Those he considers highly. Hayame bears it as a warrior. Dimitri bears it as a warrior. Rudbeckia bears it because she is to be protected. Liem — Liem would bear it, because he knows the burden of a god's consideration and care. Because... Liem, like Set, knows the agony of always, always being alone. Alone even in a crowded room. Alone and different. Alone and isolated. Alone and strange, a part of one world ( two worlds, three worlds? ) and yet not really belonging to any of them.

A god who looks in upon his own kind, because he was made for wrongness and a man born of two halves that make a painful, unloveable whole. ]


I think, [ he murmurs, ] that people do not deserve to be alone even if they are difficult.

[ Color builds in his face. It is a hard emotion to describe, made harder still because he cannot act unselfish. Cannot look upon Liem's welfare and freely give something, but must rationalize it as a thing that benefits him. And it does, it always has. He benefits others, too. Power, authority, information...

Set is difficult. He has always wanted ( begged, pleaded, gasped and cried and mourned for it — ) to be loved, even so. Maybe that, in the end, is why he loves the most difficult people in Kenos; why he cares so much for the unloveable, the most frightened of them, the ones who push him back and run away, the ones for whom loving and being loved was never a reality. ]


I told you, in that broken church: unlike anyone else in this world, I will truly accept you. You said I could call on you, in my time of need. You can do that, too. I want to give you the things you can barely stand to admit to yourself, let alone anyone. The things you think will finally be too much — a step that carries you too far, beyond what other people can forgive and forget and rationalize. I want you to know, without a doubt, that nothing you do or say will take you beyond me. I can do that, so accept me.
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[personal profile] redsoil 2024-01-11 07:47 pm (UTC)(link)
[ Something brittle inside of him cracks and flakes, soothed and injured because Liem accepts. He accepts, and Set is quick to drop his arms to the man's waist and draw him up, in, to his embrace. Warm and tight, his face dipping into the line of Liem's throat with a soft inhale — and he quiets. ]

Good. Then, [ he exhales soft and golden, a flowing sound like the rasp of silk sands flowing endlessly into dunes and waves. Tossed by the wind, pieces of things town down to motes over endless time; he breathes to the middle of their clasped hands and noses along Liem's cheek. ] Carry my blessing, Liem Talbott.

For you, I will always manifest when you call. I grant you an effigy of my might — so that even when you are alone, you will have me to call upon in battle. In times of loneliness.

[ Behind Liem, warmth pools in the form of sands divided from Set; drawn from his form to slice off and manifest in his shape — sand, expressive as him in the way that it smiles so deft and private down at the priest and dips to kiss the top of his head. ]
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[personal profile] redsoil 2024-01-15 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
[ Raking the edges of his nails along the back of Liem's neck, he breathes into his cool skin and curls against him — at his front, and behind him. The clone, though silent and only part of his sands, is as warm and expressive as he is. It slips arms around Liem's waist and holds him like that, while the god himself strokes his fingers along the other man's throat. ]

For our continued victories, [ because he is the god of war. ]

And for you, whom I can call on and will call on me. For this.

[ And his hand slips to rest over Liem's heart, his smile twitching briefly — because, there is practicality in blessing Liem. It is an empowerment, a way to hold onto him against the tide of Zenith. And Set... Set must tell him, quiet and without shame. Only thought, only consideration as he carves away further sentiment in favor of updating one of his dearest companions. Someone he truly... frighteningly, can trust in. ]

— I did something, to win the Oracle. I offered something I did not think I needed, because... because I had given it up long ago to save myself from pain, and the future does not call for such a thing from me. I fed it my altruism. And I worry I made a mistake in doing so. I still love, and I still care... but, I do not know what this will mean.
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[personal profile] redsoil 2024-01-16 07:12 pm (UTC)(link)
[ YEAH WHO DIDNT KNOW ABOUT GEN???????? ]

Yes.

[ Actually, it did. As intangible a prize as it was, the Oracle had accepted his altruism as worthy proof of his conviction to win it over for Meridian. He had conceptualized it in one way, but did not know what would actually happen, for him to be rid of such a thing as altruism. A sentiment that had never served him save to make him suffer, and now that he was rid of it — things did feel more clear. More direct, and he'd begun to conceptualize victory in more austere terms. ]

I figure, I will deal with it when I do return. But, if I am incapable of doing whatever it takes to win now, how can I ever envision a victory for us? I fed it my altruism because, I am not unselfish. And in the future, I cannot concern myself with the happiness or well-being of those who oppose us without... without getting something in return that will bolster our might. Don't you agree?

[ He doesn't know if he wants Liem to agree or not, just to... just to hear why he did it. Someone needs to understand that Set is also willing to make sacrifices. But, even his atonement is... it's for a goal, for his son. He's felt guilt for the treatment of the women and children, for his crimes against Egypt, but one doesn't need to be altruistic about upholding the balance divine scale, right? He's not Ma'at, he's Set.

He does hold a little tighter to Liem, as if — afraid. ]
It is fine if you do not. If you... cannot trust my intentions toward you anymore, because of this. But, I never really wanted you pure of intention. I am greedy. I am obsessive. Possessive. Unkind and harsh. It... do you think that means my love is lesser?
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[personal profile] redsoil 2024-01-17 05:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah.

[ Against his will ( what will? he has none, no ability to resist the worst, no capability to rally against the tide — ), he concludes his efforts to be — to be, what? What does he want from Liem, beyond to be at his side? Perhaps the way he has been thinking of the small, growing thing between is but a delusion. After all, he is a madman.

If a friend cannot bear to give him honest counsel, he knows he is not worth what it would take for Liem to love him. Such pain he would cause such a dear person. And yet, he still covets it all. Hands slipping from where they had rested, warm around Liem's body, to caress up the length of his arms, to his hands. Set squeezes them, quiet and visibly rueful. Not quite apologetic, but ridden with regret. With unease that grows catastrophically fast. ]


Of course. We need not — you need not burden yourself with concerns further than your heart can bear. I will carry the rest for you.

[ Because a love like Set's is lesser, he doesn't know why he asked the question. Liem gave him a ring, and people have been asking him to whom he is "engaged to" and such a thing does not exist in his era, but he read about it and recognized it and wondered — ]

But. Did you know what people would think, to see me wearing your token?
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[personal profile] redsoil 2024-01-17 07:14 pm (UTC)(link)
[ He won't leave him. Walking away from this moment would feel like the gouging out of his insides, the tearing free of his heart. Something so painful blossoms inside of him, as he holds tight to Liem's hands and regrets, so much, that he gave away something that

he didn't think anyone wanted. Not with the way they spoke of his dalliances with the Zenites, of his fluidity as he straddled the line between Meridian and Zenith, of his aching need to spread himself thinner and thinner among the world until he was mad with it. And all it has done, in the end, this act he thought was for the best, is drive some pain into Liem. He can smell it, feel it in the tremble of his voice. ]


I do love you.

[ It's hard to say, so directly. He's alluded to it before, hinted at it while he spoke of his feelings for the most painful people he wanted to understand and accept and have for his own. Never so concretely to Liem, but — saying the words had always felt cheap and fragile, compared to showing him. Proving it to him, even if he had to drag him around. ]

Nothing about the way I feel for you has changed, except — I do not love you at my own expense. I will love you and be more for you. I do not want to sacrifice parts of myself that are unlovable just to be able to give myself to you. And I do not want you to do that either. That — that is what my decision means, to me.

[ It means he doesn't want to be less than what he is, nor does he want that for Liem. ]

I may have given up my altruism, but I would never be able to love you any way but shallowly if I had it still. I would not be able to be greedy for you. Or even say these words.
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[personal profile] redsoil 2024-01-21 07:16 pm (UTC)(link)
[ A liar.

Liem thinks him a liar, and it hurts. Deeply and sharply, to be thought of as someone who is false; except, that he has always worked to be seen in certain ways. Not a vulnerable creature, not a weak one. Strength was always part of him, that redheaded god of war — Egypt's unconquered soldier; then, strength had been taken from him by someone he'd loved, forcing him into submission and,

he's always fought to be seen as strong, since then. Someone to believe in, or yield to. And Liem calls him a liar, which hurts so much. ]


You said it first.

[ His voice curls a little, sharpening like brittle glass. Liem is crying, and over what? Altruism? It doesn't serve them, it doesn't protect them, it doesn't mean anything for them or Meridian or the future they're working toward! Does altruism even exist? If so, how is it healthy? HOw is it fair to offer all of oneself and want nothing in return? ]

"I would like to believe this is of no concern to me." [ Like an animal that knows only violence, he pushes back a little. His body tensing, as if ready to tear away from Liem and leave him exposed and upset; he digs his heels in, prickling with anger in place of the misery he's feeling. ]

It either is, or isn't. And so what if the way I love you is lesser, in your eyes? Do you even know what altruism is, to me? It is asking for nothing from you in return. Like you're not worth what you offer. That's stupid!
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[personal profile] redsoil 2024-01-23 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
You are not hearing me — !

[ The explosion comes, abrupt and cascading. Behind Liem, the silken warmth of the cloned body holds him without flinching or crushing him; if anything, Set's copy is still gently affectionate, face pressed into Liem's hair and hands so gentle on his waist, the truth of Set's being, because there is no mask he can make such a simple thing wear. His prime body, however, curls into himself. His hands cover his ears, as if to block out the way Liem continues to push against him, to misunderstand him ( or, is it, as always, that Set lacks; that something inside of him is incapable of being anything someone wants? ).

His fingers fist in his hair, and then his hands find Liem's face and frame it. Hard and fast, as if ready to crush his skull between his palms as he searches for those strange, dark eyes. Set's own teeth bite into his lower lip, his brow twisted between anger and woe as he looks at Liem and tries to find the bridge between them. ]


That is not what I mean, Liem Talbott! You could offer me nothing at all, and I would love you. For you to think I, of all people, measure you by such criteria is not correct. It will never be correct! I am not bought by you, I am not weighing your soul — ! I just do! I just have, steadily and certainly, come to want to love you. Choose to love you!

[ Nephthys had known, once, that Set was a deep romantic. Awkward and unsure, fumbling — but so very, very sincere. A liar, Liem had called him. Sincere, his wife had once known him to be. To be mortal, loved by a god, is akin to madness, is it not? ]

You... augh! [ A frustrated noise, and he shoves his forehead to Liem's. His teeth flash, biting down on the man's bottom lip frantically, frenetic in energy. ]
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[personal profile] redsoil 2024-01-27 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
[ Why does love have to be easy, or beautiful? Why do only people who concede, who sacrifice their minds and hearts and personalities to sate someone else, who are not greedy, not rude, not difficult receive love? Why not people like Liem, who shies from being revered? Liem, with no self-worth? Or like Set, who is rude and nasty and defensive even in his best moments? What is love, if not for men like them? ( Like many people, imperfect and unlearned and mistrustful and even cruel on purpose? ) ]

I am not so different than I was before, that you cannot still trust me with your heart.

[ A lot of him that was good and righteous and sweet was gone, anyways. Torn from his body by violence, left to fester and decay and be picked over by vultures in the form of other men with hungry hands and mean eyes. Ruined by someone's insane idea of love and left to survive a shell of a man, a protector become a tyrant. And he still, even without his altruism, felt love. Was himself. Just a little sharper, given particular situations. Choices made would be built on different needs and foreseen results.

So, he breathes those words against Liem's bitten mouth and pushes himself against the other, sweeping hands across his face and throat, his waist. As if trying to touch all of him at once, not realizing that with his power, he honestly could. ]


Deliberately. That is how I feel everything for you.
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[personal profile] redsoil 2024-01-31 08:33 pm (UTC)(link)
[ Even as Set says what he does, he feels cold.

Sickened by himself, for had he not also whispered to Liem while curled in his lap, that he hoped they would have a relationship that was not transactional. That a price did not have to be paid by either of them. And then, he had given up the ability to truly make that a reality. Now, he had to get something from Liem. More than that, he wanted something from Liem — the acknowledgment, the companionship, the affection and trust. Why were those things he should not ask for? Why should he accept "nothing" as a valid response, as if Liem himself did not represent the whole of himself? ]


"You cannot refrain from one and still provide the other."

[ Liem had said that to him, and then — he had come back to him. Back from the comfort of Zenith, as he regained his hope.

His nose feels full. Why is it that he always ends up crying so pitifully around the people that matter to him, in Kenos? Set has always been such a sentimental thing, hiding the truth of himself behind harsh masks and determination and cruelty. Really, he's a huge romantic, a creature that wants to be loved and accepted, who has room to be himself and known.

( Even if I disappoint you, in the end? ) ]


Even if. Even so.

[ He sniffles, grossly and hates himself for it. Buries his face low in Liem's shirt collar and pretends like he's not about to leave a trail of tears and warm breath soaking the nice fabric. ]

I will not refrain from choosing you. Because I want — I want you to choose me too, for the same reasons you think you are not... worth it.
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[personal profile] redsoil 2024-02-07 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
[ Bending his spine, he leans his upper half away from Liem. Unwilling to break from his hold entirely, but badly needing to see his face as those cool fingers stroke through his hair. What Liem says and what Liem does confuse him, so much. He says he cannot love, yet the simple acceptance he offers and the gentle contact ( the commiseration over their struggles with diet, with food; the horrific similarities between the men who desire to own them; the agonizing lack of self worth ) are more than Set could ask for. Are they not forms of love? Could they not be?

His hands sweep up, to the wetness on Liem's cheeks. Such a stoic man, and here he stands crying — and why? Because someone wants to love him and be loved in return? Liem is crying. The way that Set had wept in his lap, sobbing because he hadn't even had the opportunity to help this man at the time and he had thought him lost. Had prepared, then, to still be his friend even if it meant ending his life to keep his promise to his son. And then Liem had come back, and in part for him. How strange, to be shown such consideration!

So, he dips down a little, to place his face at the line of Liem's eye — and drags the warmth of his tongue, animal-like, across the salt of his tears before meeting his eye.

]


I do not believe that about you. Any of it. Let me learn who you are, and determine that for myself. I do not need you to love me — I want you to. And if... you do not, that is fine. But, I will not accept that you are incapable of it.
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